VariEze O-200 Props

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Offline Barney

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« on: February 06, 2005, 06:00:39 PM »
Who has flown with a Prince P-tip?

Recommendations?

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« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2005, 08:00:38 PM »
I did, But I have to tell you. I only had it for 50 hours. One of my cylinders decided to shed an exhaust valve. After it flopped around inside the cylinder, it decided to flop around the leading edge of the prop. Took about 8 inches off the prop.

Needless to say, I now have a very nice wall clock, with the exception that one side is shorter than the other.

Unfortunately, I didn't get a lot of data before all this happened.  But it did look like it was going to be a nice prop. Lonnie Prince was very good to work with throughout the entire deal, and It looked like propellor performance was going to be as expected.

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« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2005, 03:03:27 PM »
hy barney!
my varieze got an prince prop on it!

Climb at max weight round 1300ft/min
cruise- no pants, original O-200- 135 Kts at 6000 ft
that is all i can tell you at this moment.

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« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2005, 11:30:06 AM »
On February 14th, I called Lonnie Prince at Prince Aircraft Company, and discussed with him the performance that I was (not) getting from my present prop, a 60x68, manufacturer unknown.  The prop is obviously a cruise prop and did work quite well at 8500’; however, I was unimpressed with its performance while departing KMGW (Morgantown, WV)  1248’, last summer with a temp of 92F.

Lonnie convinced me that his stock carbon fiber, Prince P-Tip for an O-200 VariEze should give better take-off performance and that it would do well at cruise altitudes.  I also had received some positive feedback e-mail from Burrall Sanders, Lee Devlin, and “Elwood,” re: the P-Tip.  I ordered Lonnie’s Prince P-Tip on the 14th, it was delivered on the 16th, and I installed it on the 17th.  Prior to installing the P-Tip, I flew my old prop at 4500’, 6500’, and 8500’ and took down some numbers for comparison.

My old 60x68 turned up 2320-40 rpm static run-up before takeoff and eventually got up to 2500 for climb.  The new P-Tip turned 2440-60 at run-up and seemingly sling-shotted to 2500+ during takeoff roll.  All the numbers for the new Prince prop were so much better than my old 60x68, that I didn’t even bother recording them.  Climb rate was 1000+ @ 100KIAS all the way to 6500’ (temp approx 50F – ˝ tanks fuel) where I leveled off and accelerated to cruise, 125-30KIAS.  I didn’t bother climbing on up to 8500.  Being short of time, I RTB-ed, hangared the EZ, and let a week go by before flying it again.  (Wheel pants were off).

My second flight was just as impressive as the first (temp again about 50F, full tanks)  with a much shorter takeoff roll and much smarter climb rate than my old prop.  Rough numbers; 5-10-15 knots faster at play-around altitude, 350’-1500’ msl, up and down the Mississippi, and 5-10 knots faster at cruise, 4500’.  Climbing back up from low level to 1500’ was most impressive, compared to the old 60x68.

Many years ago, I had a Stearman and had the Redline disk brakes installed by Air Repair at the annual Stearman fly-in in Galesburg, IL.  Those brakes were such an improvement over the stock brakes that I claimed then, and still do, that installing disk brakes was the single best thing anyone could do to improve the Stearman’s performance.

I haven’t flown a Catto, Hertzler, or Klaus prop; however, at this time, I’ll say that the carbon fiber, Prince P-Tip has been the best improvement that I’ve made to my stock O-200 VEZE.

I’m very impressed with the P-Tip’s performance.  In addition, that black prop sure does look sharp, as well.