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Offline Kilo42

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« on: April 11, 2005, 10:10:15 PM »
My CHT's are showing normal for all modes of taxi and flight.  However, during my post flight walk around my cowling is really hot.  Almost to the point where you can not keep your hand on it.  Is this normal after engine shutdown?

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« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2005, 12:50:18 AM »
Same thing happens with my Varieze, and surprisingly there is no problem with the paint (at least on the top side; near the exhaust was another story before installing some shields).

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« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2005, 11:30:28 AM »
Well, heat rises!

If you have exhaust vents on the top of your cowl this will minimize that condition. But there has been discussion about increased drag from them in flight. For me they help inflight cooling by aiding airflow out of the exhaust end of the cowl.

I have seen, on a tractor type plane (glassair) one that the owner had installed some hinged doors that hung down open when the plane was not moving but when pressurized in flight were pushed closed but I don't know if that would work in our situation.

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My CHT's are showing normal for all modes of taxi and flight.  However, during my post flight walk around my cowling is really hot.  Almost to the point where you can not keep your hand on it.  Is this normal after engine shutdown?

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Kilo42
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« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2005, 12:46:28 PM »
If you have exhaust vents on the top of your cowl this will minimize that condition. But there has been discussion about increased drag from them in flight. For me they help inflight cooling by aiding airflow out of the exhaust end of the cowl...

Like Harry, I added a set of exhaust vents on top of the cowl above the cylinders in the form of louvers that direct the air aft, pretty much tangent to the flow over the cowl.  The main incentive was to improve ground cooling after I went to a longer extension that reduced my ground cooling a bit by moving the prop away from the cowl exit.  Overall, I'd say that the louvers help cooling on the ground somewhat, and reduce the internal shutdown cowl temps (you can feel plenty of heat coming out the 'chimney' after shutdown since, indeed, heat does rise!).  Still, the cowl gets plenty hot, but it's not a problem.  I didn't notice any significant drag increase adding the vents (I'm sure that there is some); however, it is definitely important to avoid any 'rooster tail' airflow out of the plane (like straight stacks that point down, air leaks out of the canopy, etc.).  


I have seen, on a tractor type plane (glassair) one that the owner had installed some hinged doors that hung down open when the plane was not moving but when pressurized in flight were pushed closed but I don't know if that would work in our situation...

I haven't seen this personally, but I understand that there are at least some EZs that have done this 'drop down door' approach using the oil access door.  It's supposed to definitely help reduce the in-cowl temps after shutdown (which, short of burning up the cowl paint, is really what you care about).  


Is this normal after engine shutdown?...  

Obviously, it always helps to park facing into the wind since hot air doesn't like to flow backwards, down and then out of the cowl (assuming you have updraft cooling, of course).  But the bottom line is - yes this is normal for EZs and not a problem if your paint is OK.
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« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2005, 04:00:33 PM »
I don't know if this does any good but on hot days I open the oil filler hatch on landing, more hot air comes out than a Democratic convention hall!
I put the pitot cover warning banner on the hatch door to remind me to close it before flight.
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« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2005, 09:21:55 PM »
Thanks..  Just as long as it's normal, I can live with that.  The paint is fine and it is not blistering.  Seeing as how the plane is still new to me, modifications will be kept to a minimum until I get more involved in composite construction.  

Right now it's just basic touch-up maintenance.


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« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2005, 10:06:09 AM »
Seeing as how the plane is still new to me, modifications will be kept to a minimum until I get more involved in composite construction.  Right now it's just basic touch-up maintenance...  

It's smart to ask questions and get educated before launching into 'improving' (deproving?) your bird.  I've seen a couple of cases where a new owner with a lot of enthusiasm and a sharp saw set to work 'fixing up his new bird'.  The results were, shall we say, seriously short of ideal.  After a while, you will know WHAT you want to change, WHY you want to change it, and HOW you are going to do it.  Start small and simple, and move up from there - but mostly, have fun and fly/build safe!   :D
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« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2006, 09:47:43 AM »
I recently purchased a Varieze in Wyoming and flew it home to Florida. It has a drop down oil door that is held closed by pressure in flight ... neat idea, and it forces you to "check the oil" before each flight, because you want to make sure the wires, etc. are not interfering with the closing of the door ... hard to forget it, because a gaping hole is staring you in the face as you approach to board ... I like it and it definitely ventilates the cowling after shut down (probably right after roll-out!)