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Hangar Flying / Re: Naca scoop and gear leg finishing.
« on: April 20, 2012, 03:24:05 PM »
Any joggle or bump at the mouth of the NACA will disrupt the flow some.  Smooth is best.

Don't put antennas or other things ahead of it either...

Beagle

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Hangar Flying / Re: Downdraft vs updraft cooling
« on: April 20, 2012, 02:53:16 PM »
When we had guys convert to O-320 engines we had several detailed comparisons available from them.  Same with 4 pipe exhaust and ram air boxes.  We then just about all outperformed Rutan's original design by 30 mph with those additions.  But with bigger engines there was a need for good cooling.  We moved the oil cooler to the back under the starter and angled toward the intake and got better oil cooling, but it was baffling that was key to cht - good tight baffles.  Nobody should need to stair step at all in climb.  Berkut went to arm-pit cooling, which, with interior baffles to direct the air at the cylinders has proven to be fool proof.  But with the Injected O-360 though a large oil cooler is key.

What I haven't yet seen from any Downdraft guy is the proof - in converting to Downdraft is it faster with just that change - that's key information.  Our updraft O-320s were doing 210 to 230 mph flat out at 7000'.  And a few years back we had a lot of photos of very bad downdraft intake designs - lots of drag added out front of the top cowl.   I might be able to find the photos of good and bad intake designs if you are doing downdraft cooling and hit me off-line.

Beagle
canardfinder at att dot net

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Hangar Flying / Death of the Canard Builders??
« on: April 20, 2012, 02:34:19 PM »
I actually track Long EZ plans and all the RAF stuff for new builders - and a few contact me every year - looking for plans (last week a trio in China looking for plans - not electronic plans).   The electronic plans people seem more comfortable with CAD and the like - but we don't seem to have any way to track them so we can offer them help.  The material costs have gone up so we can usually also find started projects - and I have new builders doing that from time to time.   I see the Spruce Ads for Cozy aircraft and again, nobody is tracking them to see how many are actually starting alone - thank goodness for Zeitlin and the Cozy builders group - if they are smart enough to sign up.

We found it took an average of 4 years and 2500 hours to build a Long EZ (based on 100 builders, about 70 of whom completed it), not 7500 hrs - the Stagger-EZ might have taken that long - even as Steve's second plane.  I'd think a Cozy IV might take a year more than a Long EZ.  In addition to the economy, I think the internet and even things like Netflix might actually cut substantially into building time.

We also found that when the builder was done and flying, he didn't have the energy to sand or help with layups or attend meetings much any more - kind of like the butterfly emerging!

But the numbers are down.  Just as they are at exclusive Canard flyins - except Columbia and Rough River.

Beagle (Canardfinder at att dot net)

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Hangar Flying / Re: How balance a 3 blades propeller?
« on: February 10, 2012, 12:30:00 AM »
I asked Catto about that video method.  Obviously we don't sand down parts of our planes.

He's concerned as follows:

“Well, would not recommend sanding off any of the blade, but the method is correct. You can do the opposite and use the clear coat to balance, but when doing so have to account for the carrier evaporating off. This is why I do not recommend people repaint…their own propeller, as you can see it does not take much to affect the balance. One extra coat of paint on one blade and it is out, enough that you would feel it.

And even more important is the reference point. Never use the 2.25" center hole!!  Always use the 6 bolt lug set to center up on.  Many times with many wood type propellers the hole reference between center hole and the actual mounting lug pattern can be off a few thou, enough to affect balance. The only one I would trust is a metal propeller to balance up on the center hole.

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Hangar Flying / Re: Blast Tubes
« on: January 22, 2012, 09:33:47 PM »
I've seen a lot of discussion on downdraft cooling but nobody with a simple comparison with prior updraft...

I've got 2200 hours on updraft and never had to add special tubes to cool mags, etc.  Some people add pop up doors above the accessories and oil cooler up that way - seems like adding drag to me - we found best place for oil cooler was under the alternator, tilted toward the cowl intake area..

Beagle - I don't always check here - respond to canardfinder@att.net if you like.

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Hangar Flying / Re: Belleville washers to hold props on?
« on: January 11, 2012, 03:05:58 PM »
I'd have to say that there are many thousands of hours on properly built props with simple bolt torque - maybe there is something wrong with the prop if the thing losses torque that fast!  One of my friends failed prop bolts when his metal spinner fractured and vibrated for about 7 minutes to landing... a vibrating prop might do similar damage.  I'm at 3200+ canard hours and have never found the torque drop at 25 hour checks so now I do 50 hour checks on the latest prop designs.  I live in dry country...

But a Long EZ owner/engineer suggested to me that the belville washer thing is fine, but a simple pair of bellvilles is more effective than more pairs in stack.  He says the more you use, the less effective...I think Hertzler uses only one pair per bolt...I'm too simple to understand why, but the engineer was adamant.

Beagle

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Hangar Flying / Re: 2 and 3 bladed Props
« on: January 11, 2012, 02:56:05 PM »
I had 2 and 3 bladed props on a prior Long EZ - the 3 blade was actually faster and theory says it should be slower.   It was quieter in the cockpit as the exhaust is bouncing 6 one pipe at a time instead of two times per rev at the same time.  It was smoother.

There aren't many manufacturers of 3 blades.  The Performance blades seemed a little thin and people saw cracks appear and took them off out of concern... Catto has great 3 blades.

The big issue is carrying them. You can't carry them in most of our tandem planes, you can't put them in a baggage pod, and shipping is a nightmare that seems to be going up in price over time. With a pusher there is always servicing of props - they eat safety wire, washers, bolts and even tools - and need work. 

Beagle

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Hangar Flying / Re: UV blocking primer
« on: November 23, 2011, 01:01:35 AM »
I had a Defiant with Featherfill as the primary fill material (Burt's original).  Found the bubbling got worse, like chasing gophers around the yard.  First I'd do 4" patches, all the way to the skin - but the bubbles would appear just outside the patches - then I tried 2' by 2' sections - after 3 years of filling, priming and repainting I had to strip the whole top of the plane (California dew/sunshine/dew cycle did the featherfill in at about 10 years... Replaced all filler with West and microballoons, the bubbling stopped.

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Ronneberg had us carve out the top skin, then dremmel out the foam then after everything is vacuumed, use a razor knife to cut the bottom skin, while vacuuming with the other hand...trying not to let anything fall in the hole in the first place.  Then check filters anyway, of course, regularly.


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Hangar Flying / Re: Cleaning Battery Terminals
« on: November 23, 2011, 12:53:24 AM »
I thought I had to pay more for these fancy new batteries - but Chris Randall gave me this website:

PPS Batteries – This one?: sales@portablepower.com
 http://www.portablepower.com/enersys_genesis_np33-12bfr-p-163.html

Chris uses the $66 one shown starting an O-320 - the Berkut's standard battery is about twice as expensive and the same size, about 2/3 the size of the aircraft battery Burt had us use iniitially.

Beagle

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Hangar Flying / Re: Trailing Edge Fences.......WOW
« on: November 23, 2011, 12:48:05 AM »
I've talked to Klaus too - he suggested they just don't do as much for the Long EZ.  We lost Long EZ guy trying too hard to land slowly - be careful to check you reduction in speeds at altitude and then add a margin for gusts, unexpected gusts.  It's interesting to hear that you might get more aileron authority with them....

Beagle

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Hangar Flying / Re: Off to Corvair College
« on: November 23, 2011, 12:30:30 AM »
Arnold do you have a Corvair in yours?

Beagle

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Hangar Flying / Re: Inflight photos
« on: November 23, 2011, 12:28:43 AM »
Beautiful,

Not much chance of you melting your blue foam there! 

In that kind of weather, tie down ropes sometimes have to be cut!

Beagle

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Hangar Flying / Re: Move the battery????????
« on: November 23, 2011, 12:26:57 AM »
We hold copies of Burt Rutan and Mike Melvill doing the weight and balance on an O-235 Long EZ - if you don't have the videotape, you would probably enjoy seeing it.  I doubt the battery needs to be moved unless you are over 250 lbs.

Beagle

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Hangar Flying / Re: Drag reduction as a function of vibration
« on: November 23, 2011, 12:24:41 AM »
Bill,

I tried one of those dynamic rings on my starter ring - seemed smoother, but if I got 2 knots I'd be surprised.

I'll have to ask my balancer guy, Fackler, if he'll sense in the air and tell me if my clean airplane gives me a differential like you get.

Beagle

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