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Offline skyrocket

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« on: April 25, 2006, 07:42:17 PM »
I am flying off the hours and the main remaining problem is marginal head temps. I live in Mich. and now that the weather is warming up my head temps are going up too. Oil cooling is no problem. Do armpit inlets work? If so, exactly how are they built and how big should they be?Any suggestions? Thanks

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« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2006, 09:52:02 PM »
My long had actual plastic rain gutter 90 degree bends installed through the lower cowling at the junciton of the cylinders.  They worked and were siliconed into place and kept the cht about 350 and oil about 190.

I pulled them off and did a better job of baffling especially at the starter, alternator area.  Now I get a couple knots additional airspeed and 350/180 on cht/oil temp in cruise.

Try to make sure that ANY openings in your pressure side of the baffles are blocked.  A little air passing without doing it's job of cooling makes a BIG difference.
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« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2006, 12:41:11 PM »
The problem with updraft cooling---whether it is from armpits or a NACA---is that the cooling is worse than you think.  CHT numbers are published for the bayonette fittings with downdraft cooling.  There is quite a bit of temperature difference between the hot and cool side of the cylinder.  There are some CP articles that deal with "converting" your CHT readings---but they are really only a guess.

When I had my Longez, I was more interested in cooling than speed (after trashing my first engine).  I used 4 inch diameter pressure plenums with a large exit.  I was around 350-375 on the bayonettes (good temps) with 180 on the oil.  These same readings for updraft would be a little on the hot side.

Baffling must be tight---no leaks.  Check your baffling at night---shine a light up underneath and see where the light leaks out.  Inter cylinder baffles are important.  Downdraft baffling is much easier to seal than updraft baffling (in downdraft baffling, you don't have to baffle around the starter and alternator, nor any of the other odd shapes on the back of the engine.

On the Cozy, you build a ramp on the entrance of the NACA to divert air to the front two cylinders.  You build the ramp extra long----take the plane for a test flight at typical cruise alt and speed and monitor the temps.  If everything is ok, the front two cylinders will be the coldest.  You then start carving away the ramp until all the cylinders are of equal temp for those conditions.  In the end, if your cylinder temps are equal---but are still too hot---then you have too many air leaks---or the mixture set up incorrect---or you may have an inlet/exit problem where air is spilling before it gets to the NACA (use oil to check for this).
Drew Swenson
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« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2006, 05:26:06 PM »
Skyrocket, I had the same problem, see my posts "One Hot Cylinder" on 3 Jan 06 and "Not so hot anymore" on 2 May 06.  More complete replies are at the canard aviators yahoo group.  Hope this helps.
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« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2006, 05:41:21 PM »
Thanks for the suggestions. I have gone over the baffling and tightened up a few spots and am tring out some different bottom ramps.

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« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2006, 05:07:25 AM »
Skyrocket,
Where are you located at in Michigan?  The engine baffling is one of the next projects to finish my plane.  I'm out of Pontiac airport and if you're in the area, I'd like to see what you have going.

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« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2006, 05:59:12 AM »
Davidschuck, where are YOU at Pontiac airport.  I keep my Defiant there.
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« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2006, 06:05:55 AM »
Dave:
I live in Zeeland (west of Grand Rapids) and fly out a small airport between Zeeland and GR. Identifier is Z98. I have not been sucessful insolving my problems yet. The last change I made caused the hottest cylinder to be the coolest one and warmed up the other three. I am going to back off on the last change and see how that works.
It's a small world, the plane I bought as a project was started by a man who would have flown it out of Pontiac had he completed it.
Let me know how I can help.

Paul