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Hangar Flying / wing tie down hardpoints -need help
« on: September 25, 2007, 01:33:38 AM »
There is actually a better way to do this---but don't remember where the source is---maybe someone has it at their fingertips...

On my Cozy, I have retract tiedowns.  It is a piece of sturdy metal that the lower wingbolt goes thru.  It tucks up into the slot between the wing and strake---and you just push on one edge---and the mechanism rotates down to expose the rope/chain attach point.  Easy to construct---and very sturdy.

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San Diego EZ Squadron / Women Sellers
« on: September 24, 2007, 08:05:27 AM »
I agree.  Business is business.  The tact I took when I sold my Longez was that I was willing to wait a long time for my price---because I could (and I had a hard time parting with it)----and advertised it as a firm price only.  In this case----come see what you think of the airplane--but don't offer me less money since I am not yet ready to accept less money.  In this case, if you thought you were going to offer me less money from the get go---you just wasted both of our times.

In my case, I had a waiting list of people ready to pay the asking price.

On the other hand, if you don't advertise a firm price and someone offers you lower, you have 3 choices:  decline (mtg over), counteroffer, or accept.  I suspect what you were hearing is the owner more or less in the counteroffer stage----but you were probably subjected to his internal monologue------did I just say that outloud?

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Hangar Flying / Temps for the O-320 160hp
« on: September 24, 2007, 07:49:13 AM »
Jack,
I had heard of running LOP with carb'd Lycomings but did not think they would run there anymore due to the cylinder "not flying very close in formation."  However, you do have Bill James and others doing it---but not with stock Lycomings---they have screwed around with induction tube lengths and whatnot to solve the problem.

All of my wandering around Iraq will be limited to the North (MND-N) since that is where all my trucks are based.  Don't drive too fast----if you can see, you can avoid.  After R&R are you going to be doing any runs up north?

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Hangar Flying / lifting of surface
« on: September 24, 2007, 07:33:16 AM »
Is it the paint bubbling or the skin?  Sand off the paint in this area to take a look.  If it is the paint, then just repaint this area.

If skin, use the quarter test to see how big this area really is and outline it with marker or tape.  The plans has a very good repair section that will show you how to do this.

For an example and story of a really bad delam, consult one of the later CPs where Mike Melville got a really bad delam on the bottom surface of his wing due to a fuel leak.  He had to replace a lot of foam and reskin several square feet of surface---complete with pictures.

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Hangar Flying / Whelen Lenses are made of glass!!!
« on: September 19, 2007, 10:55:58 PM »
Consider these for your next plane---I put them on my Longez.  They are better than Whelan---and come in a lot of user selectable flash patterns---plus they are cheaper too.

http://www.airplanegear.com/skybright.htm

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Hangar Flying / Temps for the O-320 160hp
« on: September 18, 2007, 10:55:58 PM »
My guess is that Lycoming lost the secret sauce somewhere---and now their carb motors won't run LOP.

With fuel injection, you can get the cylinders to peak near enough to one another to run LOP.

But---you can always try to run LOP with a carb motor.  The motor will tell you if it does not like it there.

Jack---when you coming up to Speicher next?!

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Hangar Flying / Need for master relay
« on: September 18, 2007, 12:51:28 PM »
But shouldn't the master switch be completing the circuit for the master relay?

Also---I thought I heard of someone installing a switch to bypass the master relay in case of master relay failure. And I thought I heard an argument about that being a very low prob of fail.

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Hangar Flying / Need for master relay
« on: September 17, 2007, 11:17:20 PM »
Not an electrical expert but will RELAY my observations.  :lol:

The relay appears to be able to handle a larger load than a normal switch---but more importantly, it takes just a little bit of current to operate the switch.  You might get away with less large wire if you locate the "switch" by the battery or firewall.  If you insist on carrying the "large load" all the way to the panel, you can do this, but you are going to have to run a rather large wire just to put a switch on the inst panel.  There are a couple of different relays that look sort of the same.  The two favorites are the one used for a master relay----which is designed to be used continuously-----and the starter solenoid which is designed to be used for a very short duration----don't know how they are different.

Other type smaller relays would be for either a speedbrake or trim.  You probably don't have enough room in the stick to put all those fat wires to go to the flap/trim switches.  However, you can put a lot of smaller wires in the stick that carry a very small current to actuate the proper relays---which carry the larger current.

So...electronic experts...please shred the above if not correct.  Still learning----part of learning is trying to explain it.

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Hangar Flying / Temps for the O-320 160hp
« on: September 17, 2007, 06:30:15 AM »
Without knowing what your %power is---I would stay below 2500 rpm in cruise unless you are above 8K ft.  Once you figure out what 75% is, then go ahead and throttle up.

What do your pipes look like?  Ideally, you want them to look sort of tan looking on the inside.  If they are black, you are either running too rich or you could have a problem with one of the cylinders on that side----most likely too rich.

Go search the web on leaning technique--many people do many things---and everyone's setup varies.  I monitor all four cylinder EGTs.  I lean to peak (Dynon Engine monitor makes this real easy----but your conditions need to be real steady---steady speed and altitude).  I then enrich about 75 to 100 deg EGT on the first cylinder to peak (there are discusions on running at peak, 25, 50, 100, 200 ROP).  I also look at the value of the hottest EGT---if too hot, I enrich some more.  Download the instructions from several of the engine manufacturers such as JPI or EI----great discussions on things to look for).

Another technique is to lean until rough, then push it back in until smooth.

The way to tell good performance of your airplane is to record TAS---either with a TAS gauge----or calculate when you get back on the ground (grab the OAT at altitude---or look it up the nearest weather balloon on line).

How are you getting winds at altitude?  Does your GPS have a feed from your pitot-static system?  I get winds from my BM Lite---do you have something similar?

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Hangar Flying / Temps for the O-320 160hp
« on: September 15, 2007, 02:50:09 AM »
What did you use for leaning technique?

Do you have a fuel flow gauge?

Your engine is running just fine as it is---actually it is fairly cool.  The oil temp is about 17 degrees higher than ideal---but is ok.

If you want, you can work at balancing the airflow around the cylinders.  From what I see (brainfart here---#1 is the one closest to the prop?), your cylinders by the firewall are the hottest---which is normal---but you can fix.  But before you do anything---make sure that the TCs are correct.

There is a lot of documentation in both the CPs and CSA newsletters that talks about balancing.  One has to do with the baffles that go around the cylinders.  Basically, the air will enter into the opening of the baffles on the bottom of the cylinders.  You can remake/rebend the baffles accordingly to make the entry area smaller for the cooler cylinders and larger for the hotter cylinders.  Obviously, this will be an iterative approach.  The other thing to do is to build fiberglass ramps to divert air to the front cylinders.  In the Cozy, you build a rather large ramp to make sure the air gets to the front cylinders---and if you do it right (ramp big enough), you will hopefully overcool the front cylinders.  Then you start cutting down pieces of the left and right side of the ramp until the cylinders are even.  Don't cut too much at a time---much easier to cut ramp than to add ramp!

By the way, your engine rpm on the roll is always higher than static.  The windmill effect relieves some of the load on the prop.  I would say that you have a good prop engine match.

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Hangar Flying / Temps for the O-320 160hp
« on: September 14, 2007, 12:01:12 AM »
In the CPs there is a discussion by either Burt, Dick, or Mike Mellville on running at "high" rpm---like 2700 to 2900 rpm.  I encourage you to read through that----you can get the text online.  In your "tin can" airplane, you are swinging a much heavier mass (aluminum propeller).  Additionally, some engine/aluminum propeller combinations have a resonant frequency (certain rpm to avoid) that is destructive.

As I said before, full throttle (non turbo/non supercharger/non altitude compensating engine) is approx 75% at 8000 ft---and drops off from there.  Ideally when you are trying to match your fixed pitch prop to your aircraft, here is what you are trying to do (and of course each one of these things is fighting with you---so you have to compromize):
--generate enough static rpm on the ground to be safe (can't remember what this number is----but probably around 2200 to 2300 rpm).  If you can't generate the rpm, then you need a prop with less bite (assuming a properly running engine).
--generate the rpm you would like to cruise at---at your "normal" cruising altitude--at full throttle (assuming your normal cruise altitude is above 8000ft).  If you have too much rpm up here---then you need more bite.

As you can see, if you need more bite at altitude, but can't generate the required rpm on deck, you are going to have to compromize---you may need longer runways with the bigger bite-----or accept a little more higher rpm at altitude.

I typically run between 2500 and 2700 rpm---depending on noise, how fast I am trying to get somewhere, how hot the engine is running, etc

An interesting note on LOP----engine has a different sound to it in this regime.

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Hangar Flying / Temps for the O-320 160hp
« on: September 12, 2007, 11:20:29 PM »
There is a discussion (I think the CPs) where someone had TCs on all spark plugs and the bayonettes with updraft cooling.  From there he made certain conclusions.

I have come to 2 separate conclusions:
1.  Running both of my engines (Long--downdraft; Cozy updraft----both with bayonettes) within the parameters that I listed in an above post---never was bad for me.  But to really know for sure----you have to start with a fresh engine and see how long you go until overhaul.---so maybe that one is not a really good conclusion
2.  I challange anybody that you really don't know what you have unless you are running downdraft cooling with TC in the bayonette boss.  The lycoming numbers are based on this.


There will be a delta temp from one side of the cylinder to the other---these machines are aircooled.  I would also assume (but don't know) that with engine sitting still on a test stand that the bottom of the cylinder would be hotter due to the proximity of the exhaust valve/port/pipe.

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Hangar Flying / LE Mods and O-320 mount
« on: September 11, 2007, 11:19:19 PM »
Here is the index list for CSA.  There are 2 entries for Honda Start Bracket.  This may have been where I saw the drawings.

http://www.canardzone.com/csa/CSAIndex.txt

You can get back issues from Terry.  Beagle has a library full of stuff too.

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Hangar Flying / Temps for the O-320 160hp
« on: September 11, 2007, 11:13:05 PM »
Keep the probes on the bayonettes.  Get up to 8500 ft and 2700 rpm (or as high of rpm that you can get without exceeding).  You can probably go to 2900 rpm (2700 rpm more geared to swinging an aluminum prop)---but why put up with the noise and additional fuel flow?  Then lean out the engine.  Leaning techniques sort of vary and depends on how balanced your cylinders are.  If you lean to peak and then add until you are 100 degrees rich, you should be ok.  If you monitor all four pipes (which you are not) then you can tighten up the 100 deg part.

Lean of peak will only work if you are fuel injected---carb engines don't really like it on the "other side" due to the vastly different conditions between the cylinders.  Even if you are fuel injected, it may not like it "over there" unless the fuel flow between the cylinders is balanced real well (all cylinders peaking on EGT at the same time---or near the same time).

Your temps are good---but I think you may be down on the power---that's why I say get to 8500 (<75% even at full throttle) and get up to 2700 rpm).  BTW, it is nice and cool up there too---and the engine will thank you for it.  At those conditions, I would like to see the oil temp a little higher---about 180.

One thing you can do for your winter project is to verify that all of your probes are accurate----and even check your rpm with one of those optical tachs (see if you can borrow one).

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Hangar Flying / Temps for the O-320 160hp
« on: September 10, 2007, 11:34:27 PM »
The Longez owners manual has most of the numbers that you need.  The lycoming manual is ok---but will more or less tell you what numbers to not exceed----and I would say don't get close to them.

Take a look at some of the engine monitor sites.  They give some pretty good advice on using their monitor---and what temps you should be running.  And of course they will give you the disclaimer on checking the manufacturer's manual.

The Sacramento Sky Ranch book (if I remember the name) is a weath of engine information.

There is also a series of books---one of them called Firewall Forward---that are very good.  There are several more books in the series---once you find Firewall Forward, you will find the rest.  All those books---very very good.

All the lycoming engines run more or less the same.

Takeoff: full power with a carb to get the extra cooling from the extra fuel dump.  Use about 120 mph for your climb to cool off the motor.  Don't let it exceed 400.  Throttle back and level off in the climb if you have too.  The engine will quickly "recover," then power back up and resume the climb.  Can you get over 400---yes---book says you can go to 435 (memory) continuous---but don't recommend.

Cruise:350 for an EZ is pretty good.  I am up around 470 (both Long and Cozy) with no ill effects.  Don't exceed 75% power if aggressively leaning.  The power charts in the manual are not suitable for the cockpit.  You can make your own cheat sheet based on them----but they are difficult to interpret.  There is an RV guy on the web (might be rocketboy--but can't remember) who has a spreadsheet for a lycoming that calculates all the values.  I use his spreadsheet, (you can change the HP if he has a different size motor), to calculate my cheatsheet that I carry in the cockpit.  You will need a MP gauge to do this however.  You don't need mp in a 172 because it is fixed pitch---and the test pilots already took mp out of the equation.  Your HP for your prop can only be determined from MP, rpm, OAT, and altitude.  Most likely if you are in the 2400 to 2500 regime below 8000 ft, you are probably ok no matter what fixed prop you have----unless you have something real crazy.  Above 8000ft (std day), your engine can't develop 75% anymore---so you could go full throttle.  I normally don't---I usually just max it out at 2700 rpm.

I have now been playing with LOP (I am fuel injected).  Works great---fly a little slower----but really sip the gas (3ish gph less---and cyl head temps way down also).

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